My Story! X
When I was 10 and half, my mum got me a set if crop tops to wear because I had bit bigger than breast buds and were showing through top. And I was going into year 6 (grade 6 I think) and I didnt want to be picked on- logic here?
By Feb 2010 (Was just over 11) they were getting bigger and annoying when I jumped- My mum bought me a softcup 34A bra. To be fair, I didnt actually wear it for a while though.
Bigger and more annoying still 34A.
Went shopping with gran on day, bought new one- was underwired btw, but comfy! It was white/cream with black dots! Was lightly padded too.
Late August- School clothes shopping for new school! Aaaagh!
School P.E tops- white REALLY see through, happened to be wearing my spotty one. Guess what happened next? Bra shopping. GULP! Got 4 more bras. 2 unpadded white bras 34A- p.e! Lol. BRIGHT blue one= lush! And black one with pink dots.
And I am Still 11 wearing bras. I hat walking around without one, it's weird, except bedtime:)......
So guys, let your daughters wear them ONLY if necessary and make sure she is at least wearing sports/training by secondary! She will not want to be picked on for not having one.
Bye peeps! Xx
I am actually 15 and I started wearing one 2 yeaars ago...
I needed it when I wuz 10 .. But I wuz embarrased(I went through a lot sometimes I would wear aabout 3 shirts so nothing would show....)...I didn`t want to be made fun of ..so I would wear jackets ALLL the time...and I live in FLORIDA which didn`t help much ...lol (;
it didn`t help in pe either..I would run or jog and I would feel pain and my breasts would move .... :/
if you needed it ..wear it ...everyone is different and just because some develop faster than others that doesn`t mean its "disgusting" this is part of life ...
And for all those embaressed to ask their parents ...go ahead ..even if its your dad ..he will understand .. Beleive me :)
I hope this helps :)
source :past experience
Yeaa you should but only if you need one , I started wearing one just as I turned 10 I'm 12 now and I'm a 34 A which is pretty big. I started with a 28 but didn't fully start wearin them till I was 10 1/4 because I then started sticking out.I'm actually quite annoyed because some person on yahoo answers said tht 12 yr olds don't have anything to wear a bra for but If I didn't it would really hurt and I'd b sticking out all over the place .
I think every age is acceptable, I just don't like it. I mean 8 year olds and 9 year olds could wear trainers if they really needed to. Ten year olds, trainers definatly! Eleven year olds of course they can wear what they want, eleven is like an average age to start puberty so why not? I'm eleven and I wear a trainer and my boobs hang out of it! I emailed my mom that I think I need a real bra, but she hasnt responded :( I hope she does!
I'm only 9 and my boobs stick out so I probably need a small training bra to hold them in.but I'm to embarrassed to tell my mum.so I'm not ready to wear cups yet
I think that they should when they are ready not just because there friends do so they can fit in I mean there is no point unless you need it!
A girl should start to wear a bra when she begins to develop and her breasts start to need support. If that is younger than 11, so be it.
Crop tops are not bras, and can be quite pretty on little girls running around in the sunshine. They are also useful in teaching modesty, as the child is less exposed than they would be if running around with no top at all.
However, trying to sexualise children by putting them in garments more appropriate to women is a subtle form of child abuse. Let them be children while they still are children. No pre-pubescent child should be saddled with the problems and responsibilities that come with the onset of sexual maturity. A little girl should be a little girl, not a trainee sex object!
If the 9 year old's breasts are large then I would say yes. It can be awkward for a young girl to have large breasts and not have a bra to keep them under control, specially when being active. Maybe try a sports bra- they seem to be acceptable apparel for young women even if they don't have breasts.
EVERYONE GROWS AT A DIFFERENT RATE! It is only an absolute dim wit who would let their boobs flop due to age. I am 10 turning 11 in about 7 months I am in puberty and yes I wear a crop top. If a 9 year old has boobs get them a crop top and, SO BE IT!
Well I think you need 1 if they are
pointy AND a little BIG
Well, if there nipples stick through there tops and they have little boobs then they might as well. ;)
I think they should at 11 because you begin to start high school then and you have to wear a see through blouse an at 8 if they really need a bra then yes but if they don't I think they shouldn't
I think if the child really wants one then they should buy a crop top. An maybe at ten :)
If your breasts are growing, then yes.
Yes if they have to.I'm a 9 year old and I have too.
It doesn't matter what age they are. It depends on how developed they are. I for example didn't wear a bra until 6th grade where as my little sister wore one in 3rd grade. I think that if they need one, no matter what age they are, they should be able to wear a bra.
It's not the age that matters. If the girl got boobs,
she needs support and mom needs to support her too. I was nine when my
boobs start to show and please let her wear a bra because it attracts attention
to it already, no matter what the age. You don't know if a predator is
looking at your little girl or not.
Sometimes little girls just want to wear a bra to feel 'big' and grownup.
I hated it so much to wear a bra at such an early age because I was teased a
lot by grownup women about it.
Yes even if they have no breasts they will get used to it by the time they do
When I was 10 I noticed people starting to wear bras and I felt really left out because my mom said I was way too young... Its not like I needed it then, but I may have been more comfortable.
If you have boobs I think it is necessary to wear a bra I am 11 and I wear a padded bra
I'm ten and it hurts when I run. I think I need a bra and my younger sister even says so. I tried asking my mum once but I don't think she got the message. My younger sister got two bras from her birthday from a friend and insists that I take them but I feel too embarrassed to. I am going into high school next year and I'm scared that when changing for gym I'll not be able to get changed as I will be too embarrassed. Can somebody help me??
I do not think so maybe. I know a nine year old that is already wearing like size c 32. It all depends
Yes I'm ten and I got my first bra when I turned ten I am embarresd cause all my friends wear padded bras and I just stick to sports and training cause I'm to afraid to ask for a bigger bra
Yes they shouldi don't see the problem with wearing one bras are just things to help keep the breast tissuses healthy 8 is not bad at all its just puberty
Yes, defo if they need to. I was very reluctant to wear one in year 7, however my mum brought me a sports bra. (I was a bit of a tomboy).
I don't think bra's are seductive or anything like that, it is the underwear for females.
There's no need for them to be frilly. However it really doesn't matter as long as it fits. She would be wearing under neath a top/t-shirt.
If they need one than yes. I am 11 and I wear bras and they are even padded bras. But on both sides of my family we start/get/need everything early like I walked younger than the average baby. But I even shop in womans bras because girls are too small.
I am 8 and I weigh 65 lbs and I wear a 32 a
Sure, why not? If their breasts are developing then they should. If not, then wear a training bra. They wont do anything. That is the age they are going through puberty.
Yes they should because I do and am only 10 because I need 1 but you should only wear one if you need one
Yes if they start dev I'm ten ima 30 b I started dev at 9 when you start wearing a bra its NOT about age its about wen you start dev
I think if they need one definately, puberty can start at ayoung age, if you just want to wear one just for no reason it would be good practice, just wear a training bra. Don't be afraid to ask your mom, or dad or whoever your guardian is. I started wearing a bra in fith grade, now I'm going into seventh, I;m 11 and I wear an A26, mine are a little big but I'm proud because my doctor says that a year after your boobs start developing you'll get you're period so I will probably get mine any day now.
It hard 2 answer this question cause it really only depends on there size
I,m 12 and my breasts started to develop when I was 8 I was the first one in my class to develop.
Well if their breasts are developing yea they should but if their flat as the floor no
Well if they really need them then yes,
but if they don't then there is no point atall!
Uhm yeauh? I'm 12 and I wear a 32b, and I started wearing a bra at 10, and I'm not chubby, I'm really skinny. You should only wear one if you need one, even if your 8, But I gueess it's really up to your parent's.
I'm 9 and I only see 1 person in my grade ( 3rd ) wearing training bras. I do gymnastics and I am not scared of that, but if a strap shows at school I decide not to wear 1 before school. My mom thinks I should but I just cry and cry (today ). And I feel like my friends will see my straps ( or my crush 0_o ) and tease me.
If they are developing the OF COURSE THEY SHOULD WEAR BRAS. I'm 11 and I wear 32a. If you are just starting to wear bras buy a sports bra and a training bra. When you think your ready try padded bras. If you need the support wear the wire padded bras. They are so much easier to wear for me. If they do have the wire when you lift un your arms the bra starts to come up and its embarrassing.
Well I'm 13 and NEED a 39a, but I'm still in a training bra because I don't want to ask my mom for one and I live with my dad and I'm definitely not asking him. At 8 or 9 or 10 you should only wear one if you have started developing. My breasts are a lot smaller than my class mates, who all wear Bs and Cs. Just wear it if you have it or need it.
Hey I'm 9 and I wear a training bra because I have breast buds so if you think thats wrong then you don't know how young people are these days that hit puberty early.People are also getting so stupid these days.And all of you guys are stupid who think people should not be wearing training bras just by age and by the way have you heard this phrase "Never judge a book by it's cover"? Because it's true.And I am skinny too!
I thank that if they wear a bra do not wear a bra with a tank top or a spgetey dress
I'm ten, almost eleven, and I wear a training bra. I once bought a padded bra and my mum said no because she thoughtt I wasn't old enough. I'm in year 5 :-) and my two bestfriends wear them and I feel so left out. But I know that if you need one, where it because if you don't, your breasts will sag when your older. So I say if the girl needs a bra, get her a bra!!!
1 of my friends wears bras and so do some others but when we go into the changing rooms it is sooo embarasing coz lots of people have them and I didnt but yesterday my mum bought me a sports bra and I am 11. You don't need to wear them at you age. But if you developing breast (boobs) and they are dangeling then wear one but not at 6 or 7.
Hi,well I'm turning 11 and I'm already38 c
I'm 11 years old and my bra size is a 34B.You should wear a bra.It's normal usually you have about the same size as your mom when she was that age.
Yea if they need 1 it doesnt even matter how old they are if you are a girl and have or growing breasts wear a bra. I am 11 and I wear cup sizes there is nothing wrong what I'm to young??? I'm not.
I am 9 and I got 2 embarrassed 2 tell my mom at first we thought it was a calcium build up but it turned out 2 b puberty anyways I think it is ok to wear a bra no matter how old you r everyone is different
I'm 11 I want to where a bra but don't know how to tell my mum but I would only get one if I needed it
I'm 10 and I need to ask my mom for a bra. I'm so scared! She is really closed about puberty and bras. I just have undershirts and my boobs stick out a lot. Any advice?
I'm 11 and I don't have any bras at all not even a training bra!! I want a bra so I can feel grown up but my mom hasn't talked to me about it yet and I don't want to talk to her about it!!
If they really want to then give them a training bra or a cami.I'm 11amd I wear camis I'm too afraid to tell my mom I need to wear a bra cause I have pretty big boobs
I am 11 and I wear a training bra . I am too embarrased to ask for a real one and I thnk my mom will want to see my boobs before she buys a real one if I ask. I REALLY don't want that one to happen
I'm 11 and I am a 34B now, and 2 years ago when I was 9, I was a 30AA, so it really depends when you start to develope, there is no proper age! So, don't tease someone because they wear a bra at a young age, let a girl decide what she feels comfortable with.
Yes I'm 9 I started a year ago I wear training bras still but I have one padded bra
When I was 9 I started wearing training bras and when I was 10 I wore padded bras now I'm 11 and I'm a 34a
I'm 11 yrs and I wear a bra. My mom and my sister keep telling me to wear one. Because they sometime itch.
Well I think that 8-9 is a bit young but I wear a bra and I'm 11 but depends how quick your growing coz my bff is 38a and shes 11
I am 10 and a half and have the biggest boobs in my entire class. I wear a 36A. I wear a padded bra. I started wearing a regular bra in 3rd grade.
Help me please. See, whenever my mum says I need a bra, shes too busy to bring me and I'm not allowed to go by myself
Yes I'm 11 and I wear a 28a my breast started to develop months ago but now I'm wearing one girls should wear them if they need one
I am 11 and I wear a bra and started puberty when I was 5 so I don't really see the problem
They wear bras because they NEED it. I'm 10 and I'm not wearing bras, my mom and I go with camisoles and a few tops with built in bras. Yeah you people are stupid just judging by age.
Well.. I'm 13, turning 14 this November, but still haven't worn one xDD
I'm really fat too, so I don't think they need one at that age =D
I am 11 coming 12 my I don't wear one I am really really thin my mum says I don't need one untill I am 16 [[when she first had one]]
They also make training bras that are great for girls that age.
Only if they have breasts which need to be supported.
Yes,I'm 11 and weigh about 95 pounds and I wear a 34B!(:
Style of baby bra for 8-11
If she plop, must wear bras
Yes I an 12 and last year most of the girls in my grade had stated or already had breasts and you can't just let them dangle
Yes if they need it I'm 11 and I wear a 40a so they have to start sometime you can't let them sit there and just dangle no can you
Yeah I am 11 and I'm a 34a.You should start wearing bras when you think you are ready.
11 years old is the age to start their beginner's bra~ it is to help protect them and teach them... So I say yes!!!
Well I think so I'm 11 I wear a 38 a and I'm proud they r bigger than they should be but o well it attracts boys :)
I think they should one when there bodies are big and they need support to hold up there breast
I am 11 and I need 1, but my mom keeps thinking about getting me 1.
Well I'm 10 and I started developing when I was 9 and before all me friends
Well I'm 10 and I wear a training bra to get ready for when I need one all of my friends already started to develop
I'm 10 and I wear a bra but you should only wear a bra when your breast start coming in I mean its not our fault our breast start growing so fast and we can't let our breast hang out and then when were older they will sage
I think it would be fine for a girl who is 8 to wear a bra... It might be smart to start with a training bra so a girl can get used to it before she is 11.
I'm 11 I wear a bra but do boys want to touch are boobs
Yea they should only if the need to not to just show off or fit in
Yes they should... Well if the don't have any boobs then they don't need one but if you have boobs you need one xx bye
Well actually jenny57 I'm 11 and 95 and wearing a 34b too so your quite wrong.
Yes,it is nessary bcoz their r various biological reason behind that and it also attract boys.
I am 12 and I have 32a I am getting a cup bra in about a couple of weeks.
Yes, beacase if your dev then you should wear one
Yes I am 10 and I ware a 30A.But I stell don't know because my dad does not think so.so plz write back.
They should wear trainning bras and real ones if they are lke an a or b cup
You wear one when you start to develop breasts...I am 11 and I started wearing one when I was 9... Not because I wanted to grow up.... But because I started developing at 9 years old...if you get boobs when your 7 then wear a bra when your 7
Well I am 11 years old and I just got my first padded bra last weekend. I wear a 34A. When I first thought I needed a bra, ( a sports bra ) I was ten and I was SO scared to ask my mom. But then I did and she was fine with it and agreed with it! But I think that 8 year olds wearing bras is WAY to young!
I am 11 and I'm a 36a I wear a bra all the time but I think that 11 year olds are aloud to wear a bra but only if they truley need one . For all you people that said you wanted a bra but didn't want to ask just ask.your mom was once a girl going through puberty to. I was scared to ask to but then I though about that and it wasent as hard to ask:) hope I helped peace out;)
I think they should but only if they need 1
Yes- I'm 11 and I am 32A.
They should if they are developing.
Yes cause if day got boobs den why not?
Yes I'm 11 and wear a 34c
It's not that young of an age since nowadays girls are developing very fast. As soon as their nipples show through their shirt buy them a training bra. Once they get into cup sizing buy them a shaped or lightly padded bra. And little girls should always wear a cami under their clothes.
I'm 11 and I stared at 7 and now I wear a 34b
I'm eleven and I only wear it when I need to.
Well, I wear these triangle ones and they support me fine
I wear one and I'm 11. I wear a 30a.
Of course! I started developing breasts when I was 10. And so the best bra to wear was the training ones. When you turn 13 you should start wearing cups. :)
If they want 2 then its their choice I mean I'm 13 and a 34 a I think 8 is a bit young but any time after that is really ok I suppose.
I think they should only if their breasts are developing and if not a training bra is fine I'm 11 and I wear a 32a but 8 and 9 a little young maybe 10 and 11 though because that is when puberty begins
I am 10 and I wear tank tops with non-cups in them, but I know people that wore then in 1st grade which is WAY to young.
I am 11 years old and I wear a 30 aa padded bra only when my shirt is thin and I feel like I need it but other than that I wold normally wear a sports bra
Well, if they need them, yes. I'm eleven, and I wear a 32a. And 11 isn't really a "young" age for bras. Most girls at that age have already started puberty.
Well At 8 maybe a top
But when your 11 deffo
Cause when you have to change for gym
I'm 11 nd a 34aa
I'm eleven I wear bras and so do my friends but my friends that are ten think were weird
I think that 10 old should wear bras because they need one like me I don't have breast but I'm ten I just wear a padded bra so my breast looks bigger does that answer your question
If they really need one. I'm 11 and I'm in a woman's bra! Its really up to their parents.
I'm 11 and I started wearing a bra not too long ago!! I'm a 30a...and my nipples do show if I don't wear one!! I'm getting ready to have to wear a 32a
I'm 11 and I wear a 32 A. For some reason my clasp comes undon like 2 times a day. Is it 2 big? I think my bras like a whole size 2 big.
It Depends I think 8 or 9 Is a stupid age to wear a bra but when they get to about 10 and a half or 11 years old I think they should consider it if they have started puberty to be honest most girls start at the end of year 5 or start of year 6.
I think they need bras at age 10 and up I have cheerleading and my coach recommends sport bras so yeah I hope I helped I think age 11 or 12 is a reasonable age to wear padded bras only if there starting puberty just have a parent and daughter talk that helps a lot
Well I'm 11 years of age and my mum says I shouldnt wear ones tht are padded but their only a little bit padded its not like their really padded!!But I do need them ut them my mum goes buying stupid little crop tops tht don't fit me!! Its really starting to annoy me what shall I do?
I were a bra and I am nearly 10 only because I need one you should start to were 1 wen you are ready for it and you start growing them.When you grow them you should not go into a padded bra when you just get them
I'm 11 and I wear a bra all the time I'm a size 32a and and ive been wearing one for about 1-2 years now and yes I think 11 year olds should wear bras because its the time they move on to secondary school so they become more of a teenager
I'm 11 years old and I wear a 32a bra I don't need a padded bra I don't even need a sports bra but every1 in year 5 and 6 have started so I want to fit in but I'm fat so I can't even wear a 6-7 one I started wearing baby bra's at 6 to 7 coz my friends mum gave them to me but they were flat then I was 8 or 9 I started wearing sports bra's then at 9 to 10 I started wearing padded bra's but I never wore them all the time now I'm 11 I wear them every single day.
Well when I was 10 or 11 I just wore the crop tops and training bras! I have never seen an 11 year old with big breasts! I'm 13 now and I'm a proud 32 a or b (I'm different in every shop) my nine year old cousin got a padded bra just to look cool in front of me and my other cousin and she is so flat chested!
If a girl wants to wear a bra shouldn't that be her choice? No matter what the age. It seems like it would be psychologically damaging to tell a young girl she can't have or that she doesn't need a bra if she wants one. It is her body after all, so it's really nobody else's business but hers.
At eight you'll probably you'll going to need an undershirt or a training bra. If your parent lets you, you can get a lightly padded AA for more confidence. I'm 12 and I wear a 34B (adult sizes). I decided that if I were a mom I'd tottaly let my 8 year old wear a training bra, and if she REALLY needs it a padded bra at 8 1/2 or 9.
I say yes when your 11.Not when your 8 its too young .11 yes cause you need practice.see I HAD A SITUATION WHEN MY MOTHER SAID NOT TO WEAR BRA WHEN YOUR 11 YEARS BUT WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL IT WS IRRITATING TO WEAR A BRA
I'm 11 and I'm dying to tell my mom I need to start wearing a bra. I wear camis rite now. All my friends wear bras. I think I'll tell my mom tomorrow when we go shopping that I need to start wearing a bra. But I think it's ridiculous for 8&9 year olds to be wearing bras.
I'm 10. Mine feel really heavy and the hurt when I roll over in bed. I sneeked up the shopwith my pocket money and got 3 bras but I really don't feel comfortable in them. But when I don't, they hurt so bad and they stick out. My friends make fun of me at school and I don't know what to do
Yes because if your breasts are ready to wear one or if your crop tops are small and you don't get a bigger size for yourself thn I think its a good idea because your ready to wear one but get measured just in case you get the wrong size and everyone makes fun out og you I'm ten and soon I'm gettin one well I'm gettin thm tomorrow so I don't need to worry because I've got my mother with me but make sure with your parents .
You wear one when you're ready. I once saw a second-grader who needed one.
I'm 11 and I wear a 12 A
I need one
Yeah I am 11 nearly 12 and I wear one loads of my friends started to wear one in year 5 xxx I am 28 aa
I am 11 and I wear a bra, don't be scared to wear one and you only need a bra if you have big boobs
I started at 8....my teacher was about 2 tell my mom to buy me a bra....I am a 11 year old in a b36 size bra.....if you r uncomfortable, don't wear one...you do not have to...I am bigger than all my friends and for that reason all of my shirts r 2 tight.....one of my friends didn't realize this and called me a slut...I am also really curvy, my butt is huge, and on top of that, my hips just HAVE to be the hips that swing...I hate my body because guys think that I'm like 15 or something.
Hey I think that 8 year olds don't wear 1 neither do 9 year olds when you reach 11 its time 2 wear 1 if you still don't feel big enough 2 fill one at 11 wait another while OR tr a training bra hope this helps bye
They should when they need to. Most people start wearing one when they are 10, 11, or 12. I am 11 and I wear one. Everyone at school wears 1 too
I am 11 1/2 and I am 30a. I started wearing a crop top when I was 11 :)
I just turned 11 and I wear a B34. If they need a bra then they should wear one no matter what age
Yes I'm 10 and I don't wear bras but I need them but 8 is way to young
Well, I'm 11 and I wear a 36A, so yes, I think that 11 yrs old can wear a bra, depends on when they develop!
I'm 9 years old and I wear a bra
in fact I'm wearing mine right
I'm 11 and I NEED a bra but I don't know how to ask my dad for one! And yes if you do have boobs then you should!!
I'm 10 nearly 11 but I look like 14 I'm not overweight just quite tall I'm 5 foot I wore my first bra wen I was about 9 but I didn't really need 1 I was like a 28aa but now I'm a 32a
Hey um I am 11 years old and I am a size 38A it is so big isn't it
I am 11 yrs old and I wear a bra 11 yr olds should were one for when they ar playing sports or running and jumping! So yes they should were a bra!
I'm 9 and I wear a padded bra I got my first one for christmas 2009 but I don't really wear it that much!
Um I'm ten and I've had to wear a bra since I was eight. I'm not fat either.
I only wear crop tops I mean everyone does in my class and I am 11 and I think I shouldn't wear a bra 'til I'm 13
Of course they can....I started to wear a bra at the age of 9...my niece has started her periods and she is only 10...maybe the girl is going through the stage where she feels liek she is turning into a young adult....its never too early you know...mayeb start her off with a small one 28aa...or just a normal vest one...that may make her feel a little more compfortable...maybe all of her mates have started to wear them..its perfectly natural....girls usually turn more intelligent at the age of 9 , so maybe this is just a sign to say..she really is turning into a young lady..just let her wear a bra.. Obviously not one that is too big.. Just one that makes her compfotable and one that is suitable...one that she personally like.. Not persifically what you think looks good. She needs to feel comfortable too xxxx good luck xxxx
Uh I'm so embarrass cause all my freinds r wearing a bra and I'm not I'm 10
I'm 11 and I need one but I don't have any
(I think they are getting too big :/)
ohh well, a 14 year old boy asked me out
so I'm happy.
Well depends if they develop faster than others... You probly shudt wear bras w/ cups/pads until your about 12
There is no exact age on where you wear a bra , everyone is different. For example my freind whos 13 has the flattest chest in the whole 8th grade class . Just because she is 13 doesnt mean she has to wear a bra ,, shes not ready yet.
Yes if you are at least a 30a then I think that its time to wear one. I'm 10 and I need to ask my mom for a bra because I'm a 32b and I just have those camis that are extreemly small for me so thats that(:
I'm 7 and I'm already a B cup :( I think you should wear bras when your ready..you can't help how much you develop
I'm 11 nd I wear a 32aa cause I have a broad back so I say y not but if you r goin 2 pretend tht you have them I wud watch cause ppl find out
No. Its totally ridiculous. They should jump up and down because they don't need one.
I do not know cause I'm 9 and I am not ready for a bra yet cause I haven't develop any breasts yet.
The age of wearing bras is 16 according to me and it is really abnotious of girls wearing at 11 and 12 and it spoils the happiness of their young age. Anyways the girl is going to wear a bra till her death and suffer the pain and uneasiness of it then why getting the pain at an enjoyable early age
No... I think that is ridiculous to wear a bra girl younger then 12... They can't have boobs at all but if they have thie boobs are really small and they can live without bra... I think it is ridiculous to see a little child in first, second, third, fourth who wears a bra...