I was really against it until someone pointed out that Iwouldn't be required to marry a gay person. Then,I was " Meh, then who cares?".
If one of my nephews ever turned out to be gay I would want them to have everything that would make them happy, because I adore and love them very much.
However, the Church is clear on it's stance in homosexual relations, and since the church has the bible as it's authority then I would simply make that clear to my nephew.
People have to remember the time in which the bible was written. It was written for a group of people who at the time were witness to pagan tradition in which they did not agree. People in this day and era seem to think that we are more liberated now than we ever have been, but regarding gay relations that isn't true. In Rome and Greece gay relations were accepted, in the bible a centurion keeps a young boy as his sex slave, for whom Jesus heals.
The reason why the homosexual acts were rejected by those who wrote the bible maybe because sodomy was related to pagan ritual. Male prostitutes often resided in the temples of the goddess.
Also, in Rome and Greece, older males had very young males as sex slaves even edging on children and this was classed as pederasty. Many poems were written about it. Pederasty would be classed as paedophiler today.
Even in practices today, the Kundalini is often said to be raised through sodomy and this may revert back to Egypt since sphincter and Sphinx originate from the same root word meaning "draw tight." The kundalini is said to reside at the bottom of the spine. This is also seen in ancient Indian teaching, in tantric-sex, and in witchcraft, witches were accused of "kissing the devils backside."
In gnostic teachings the serpent was considered a saviour and this world was created by a demiurge.
In current religion, God is classed as having a both male and feminine side, which makes sense since without men and women children cannot be created. Hence, in the bible Adama is created by God, and when a suitable help mate cannot be found, God takes woman from Adama's side (womb man), and creates Eve. In some texts of the midrash Adam was recognised as being both male and female. This is why marriage is about a man and a woman joining together to become one flesh and Adama recognises her as such "“This is bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh...”
Gay people either have to accept that marriage within the church is set on a certain teaching, and whether they want to follow that teaching, or the church has to change that teaching, or interpret it differently, and as I understand the bible states:-
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book: If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book. And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. (KJV, Rev. 22:18-19)
And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. (NIV, Rev. 22:19)
However, I think we have all noticed changes within the bible and religion.
Gay people are perfectly able to accept state marriages like the rest of us, without all the judgement of religion, in fact I would rather get married outside of a church and all it's hypocrisy.
If we take another topic like paying interest into account and relate it to the bible it says Deuteronomy 23:19-20
Thou shalt not lend upon usury to thy brother; usury of money, usury of victuals, usury of any thing that is lent upon usury: Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury: That the Lord thy God may bless thee in all that thou settest thine hand to in the land whither thou goest to possess it.
This certainly isn't a teaching our banks follow, unless they consider themselves as a different group to the rest of us.
Which is another teaching that clearly shows an in-group, out-group mentality. So I guess you have to decide which group you are in as to what teachings you decide to follow. And as in religion just because you decide you are in a group doesn't mean that other's within that group agree that you are.
I think that everybody is equal in this world. If you are born human you
are therefore entitled to your human rights just like everybody else.
Who's right is it to take away other peoples rights just because they
like the same sex.
Everybody needs to see that the world we are living
in now is like the world we used to live in, things have changed and
people are different.
So why should we stop the people who love each
other from getting married? Because god says so? God also says for
people not to murder but people have abortions and kill people, but NO
we want to discriminate against people who love each other not kill.
mean no disrespect to Christians, Catholics or Jehovah witnesses but
welcome to the real world, the world we live in now!
I believe (my religion has made me believe) that being Gay is WRONG, however we are to respect others who choose to live this way. I don't believe in it, I think its sinful but I would NEVER in my life throw abuse or judge somebody who chooses to be gay because if that's what makes them happy then who am I to say?
However it angers me that these people want a church marriage because in the Quran, Bible etc, it clearly states that it forbids an same sex practice so acknowledging a marriage in a holy place would be a serious offence to the religious court.
Yes you may be Gay or lesbian, marry each other then, but why do you need a church marriage when you know that the real words of the bible says it forbids it? Its like you cannot be gay and then say you follow religion, because being Gay is not permitted in catholocism or Islam etc. So by making the Church accept it you are trying to change religion? What right do you have? Stop corrupting this world more than it already is. YOU CANNOT BE GAY AND THEN TRY AND MAKE IT ACCEPTABLE IN RELIGION. It never has and never will be accepted. People may accept it but religion will not. I'm not taking 'rights' off Gay people because if you love someone enough surely it doesn't matter where you get married now does it? If you are Gay then why would you want to be married in a church? Its kind of contradictory, wanting to be in love with someone forbidden in religion and then pressurising churches to make it okay? You cannot change religion, it was put there for a good reason, neither can you modernise religion its silly.
I have no problem with it.
I was taught as a child to think that "there was place for everything and everything in its place."
Apparently it turns out that life is not that simple for us men..
An old question, but I couldn't resist.
I don't really care tbh. I mean, I don't really see how it negatively changes anything...